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user: Looking for a 5K/10K race-day shoe. I run sub-19 5K, neutral, 60kg. Plate or no plate?
assistant: You're in the sweet spot for a carbon racer — your sub-19 5K pace and 60kg body weight mean you'll get real benefit from the snap and energy return of a plated shoe without sacrificing durability or comfort over the 5K/10K distance.
Before I lock in a pick, one quick question: **Have you raced in a carbon-plated super-shoe before, or would this be your first?** That'll help me calibrate between the aggressive, lightweight racers versus the slightly softer, more forgiving options.
In the meantime, here's what stands out from your data:
**Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen v11** — The lightweight, snappy pick. At 184g with a fiberglass plate and 32/25mm stack, it's built for your pace. Doctors of Running calls it "a massive upgrade" with a much softer, bouncier feel than the v10, and it's also $45 cheaper than the Saucony. Best for 5K speed work and racing.
**Saucony Endorphin Pro v4** — The cushioned racer. At 218g with a full carbon plate and 40/32mm stack, it's heavier but softer — Doctors of Running notes it's "excellent at 5K pace" and has a durable outsole that holds up well. The wider upper also locks down better if you prefer a secure fit. Trade-off: less aggressive snap than the Takumi Sen, but more forgiving if you're running hard for 30+ minutes.
**New Balance SC Elite v5** — The aggressive middle ground. Carbon plate, 40/32mm stack like the Saucony, but narrower fit and a more propulsive, PB-chasing character per The Run Testers. Sits between the Takumi Sen's lightweight aggression and the Endorphin Pro's comfort.
Which direction appeals to you — lightweight and snappy, or cushioned and stable?
user: Compare your top pick vs the Saucony Endorphin Pro 5.
assistant: I need to clarify which shoe you're asking me to compare. In my earlier message, I mentioned three options — the **Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen v11** (my top pick for your sub-19 5K pace), the **Saucony Endorphin Pro v4**, and the **New Balance SC Elite v5**.
You're now asking about the **Saucony Endorphin Pro v5** — which is a newer iteration than the v4 I mentioned. Let me compare the v5 to the Takumi Sen v11, since that was my top recommendation for your 5K/10K focus.
**Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen v11 vs. Saucony Endorphin Pro v5:**
The **Takumi Sen v11 wins for your 5K/10K goal.** At 184g with a fiberglass plate and 32/25mm stack, it's built for speed and snap — Kofuzi calls it his "perennial favorite 5K/10K racer" with great pop and agility. Doctors of Running notes it's "softer and more forgiving than the Sen 10 while still feeling agile and low to the ground."
The **Endorphin Pro v5** (215g, carbon plate, 39/31mm stack) is heavier and cushioned for longer distances. It has an aggressive rocker and mixed expert reception — the added bulk and softer ride trade away the snappiness you want for a sub-19 5K. Doctors of Running's earlier take on the v4 flagged that the forefoot feels very stiff due to the plate, creating a "split personality — great for 5K-fast or marathon-steady but awkward at tempo/half-marathon paces." The v5 leans even more toward marathon comfort.
**Bottom line:** Stick with the **Takumi Sen v11** for your 5K/10K racing. It's lighter, snappier, and purpose-built for your pace. The Endorphin Pro v5 is a solid marathon racer, but it's overkill in cushioning and weight for your goal.
Have you raced in a carbon-plated super-shoe before, or would the Takumi Sen be your first?