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user: Looking for a 5K/10K race-day shoe. I run sub-19 5K, neutral, 60kg. Plate or no plate?
assistant: For a sub-19 5K runner, you're firmly in super-shoe territory — a carbon-plated racer will give you the energy return and stiffness you need at that pace. At 60 kg and sub-19 5K speed, you're light and fast enough that the aggressive forefoot rocker and plate will work *for* you, not against you.
I'm seeing three strong options in my data:
**Saucony Endorphin Pro v4** — EDDBUD calls it "a little bit more responsive" and "just feels a bit more Nimble" than competitors, with better versatility across 5K to marathon. Doctors of Running confirms it shines at the 5K end of the spectrum with an aggressive forefoot rocker that works best at truly fast paces. Full-length carbon plate, 40/32mm stack, 218g. Wide forefoot fit.
**Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen v11** — The lightest option at 184g with a fiberglass plate (snappier than carbon, less cushioned). Doctors of Running notes it's "a massive upgrade over v10" into true moderate-stack super-shoe territory with a softer, bouncier Lightstrike Pro midsole. 32/25mm stack, 7.0mm drop. Built for 5K and speed work. Wide forefoot.
**New Balance SC Elite v5** — Full carbon plate, 40/32mm stack, 201g. Well-regarded, but flagged as narrow in the heel — less ideal if you have a narrower foot, though your weight and neutral gait should adapt fine.
The Endorphin Pro v4 is the most versatile if you race 10K too; the Takumi Sen v11 is the purest 5K weapon if that's your focus. Which distance is your primary target?
user: Compare your top pick vs the Saucony Endorphin Pro 5.
assistant: The **Endorphin Pro v4** is the sharper 5K weapon; the **Endorphin Pro v5** is the more cushioned, marathon-friendly pivot.
Here's the ride split: The v4 has an aggressive forefoot rocker that Doctors of Running confirms "works best at truly fast paces (5K or faster)." The v5 softens that aggression with a dual-layer PWRRUN HG + PWRRUN PB midsole that trades some snap for comfort — it's described as "firm responsive" rather than the v4's pure responsiveness. Stack-wise, they're nearly identical (v4: 40/32mm, v5: 39/31mm), but the v5's softer foam and smoother transition make it more forgiving on the back half of a race.
For a sub-19 5K runner, the v4 is the pick. Doctors of Running explicitly notes it "shines at the 5K end of the spectrum"; Kofuzi and EDDBUD both emphasize its nimbleness and versatility across 5K to marathon. The v5 has mixed expert reception and feels engineered more for the marathon-distance racer who wants cushion over pure speed.
The v4 is also $15 cheaper ($225 vs $240).
**Stick with the Endorphin Pro v4** for your 5K focus. If you were training for a marathon, the v5's softer ride might appeal — but at your pace and distance, the v4's aggressive plate and snappy forefoot rocker are built for you.